Method 305 NV/Toyo OC RT Trail

[AXE]

Just installed these Method 305 NV wheels and wrapped them in Toyo Open Country RT Trail tires.

 

[AXE]

Wheels are 18x9 -18 offset and tires are 295/70/R18.

On the truck 37 psi, the tires sit 34 inches tall. The tread pattern is 10 inches wide and the shoulder to shoulder to shoulder lugs are 12+ inches wide.

 

[AXE]

The tread is about even with with outer edge of fender flare and shoulder lugs are about 1 to 1.5 inches out depending upon how you look at it.

 

[AXE]

The stance is really nice and feels stable, but definitely reduces that ease of turning tightly.

 

[AXE]

Not sure how anyone is running larger tires or spacers without a lot of rubbing. Mine was rubbing good in front and rear when turning. If I would have driven hard around the block, shit would have been torn off.

 

[AXE]

The solution is cutting front corner of bumper off and modifying rear bracket behind wheel will liner and plastic edge guard. It'll make you pucker, but it isn't hard and worked well.

 

[AXE]

I took about 18 mm off. It looks pretty clean and matches the lines of the bumper and body above. Will repaint the sanded edges and add some clear or might hit it with some bedliner coating.

 

[AXE]

Gotta spend more time with the rear of front wheel well. That support bracket can be removed, but it provides needed support for body into subframe. I'm going to modify it or fab a different one.

Rears don't require any modifications.

 

[AXE]

Stock tires and wheels weighed approximately 84.5 lbs and these heavy weights came in at 97.5 lbs.

Plenty of power to get them spun up! Phone's GPS matched perfectly from 20 to 70 mph. I ran 25 miles and got 16 mpg mostly highway, some city.

Handling is pretty good, but they are now more like my Duramax running same size. Requires more input to turn and change lanes.

Tires have a much stiffer sidewall and are not as compliant over small road imperfections. Overall still really nice.

I got the look and setup I wanted, but it isn't necessarily better. Stock ride quality is definitely better. If you like the stock setup maybe just add some spacers and your good to go.

 

[The_Z]

Thanks for sharing all this. Would a level kit help alleviate some of the rubbing?

 

[AXE]

Thanks for sharing all this. Would a level kit help alleviate some of the rubbing?

In my opinion, I don't think a level kit would help. For some reason they designed the clearance up front narrower than the rear wheel well by about 1.5 to 2 inches. My truck only sat about 1/2 to 3/4 inches lower the two times I measured it, so it didn't seem like enough to warrant a level kit.

I tested a couple different setups and both would require trimming to prevent serious damage on moderate to heavy grade changes and turns.

I think if you do slightly taller tires, wider wheels/offsets, or 1.5+ inch spacers on stock wheels/tires you should plan on trimming. Especially for any off roading. You'll tear up your truck worse than trimming.

It wasn't really that hard if you have the tools and some patience. Took me about 3 hours and it looks fairly clean.

 

[zrdeuce]

Just installed these Method 305 NV wheels and wrapped them in Toyo Open Country RT Trail tires.

Very nice setup

 

[AXE]

After a few different options and test fits, I finished up trimming the rear plastic wheel well guard to get the clearance I wanted to prevent rubbing. Basically cut about 4 inches off the inside of the plastic guard. Also bent the bracket behind the fender guard back by hammering with a 3 5 lb hand sledge. It looks pretty clean and still provides good protection behind the tire.

I ended up with about 1/2 inch of clearance at full lock. Would like about 3/4, but you would have to trim the support bracket and fender well liner and you wouldn't have protection and mud would likely pile up in the sub frame behind the liner.

 

[AXE]

I've messed around with the tire pressure on these Toyos. I ran recommended 38 psi at first, then ran 35 psi around town freeway and 40 on 500 mile highway trip. All are cold temps and verified with a very accurate pressure guage.

I definitely like the 35 psi as it gives a softer ride on these stiff load range E tires, but did not track well at freeway speed, felt like it wandered some and had a tendency to continue to follow tire tracks in asphalt and grooves in concrete when changing lanes.

40 psi made was nice for easier steering and it rolled easy. You could hear and feel all the small imperfection in road surface. Definitely a harsher ride. I was in a curve with lots of tar snakes at about 70 mph and felt it slide......made me pucker. Warm tires had them at 43-44 psi. Probably shouldn't have been speeding.

37-38 psi seems to be the best balance for all conditions, so I'll go back to that and see how it goes.

 

[ZR2EDDYB]

I’m looking at some -12 offset wheels. All the trimming might turn me off to the idea.

 

[AXE]

I’m looking at some -12 offset wheels. All the trimming might turn me off to the idea.

It isn't that bad if you have the tools and a little patience. Took me 5 or 6 hours to do a few setups before I finished it. If I had to donit now, it would be 2 to 3 hours.

 

[BluZR2]

I see that you have a -18 offset. Do you feel that you would have to trim with a 0 or +12 offset as well?

 

[Jasnak]

I see that you have a -18 offset. Do you feel that you would have to trim with a 0 or +12 offset as well?

I have posted my 295-55-20 cooper stt pros with a 0offset rim and it’s a perfect fit. No scrub / rub. Perfect fit

 

[BluZR2]

I have posted my 295-55-20 cooper stt pros with a 0offset rim and it’s a perfect fit. No scrub / rub. Perfect fit

That's a good looking ride you have there! Unfortunately the 295/70 R18 is 1.5" taller than the 295/55 R20. Does it look like there is 0.75" of clearance at full lock?

 

[Jasnak]

That's a good looking ride you have there! Unfortunately the 295/70 R18 is 1.5" taller than the 295/55 R20. Does it look like there is 0.75" of clearance at full lock?
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thx. I have to run front mud flaps up here. These are custom made kickbacks designed for this truck. Nodrills. And there’s no way I’d get any bigger tire in there without no rub or cutting / trimming. With a Smaller offset maybe. There isn’t much room there with the mudflaps off test fitting. Maybe 1/4 inch