Brakes?

[stevev331]

So, I have had my 2024 Bison for 4 days and about 310 miles. Love the way it looks and drives... But...
My Wife's 2021 GMC Acadia, my Son's 2024 Colorado Trail Boss AND my (recently replaced) 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie all have/had better/stronger initial bite when applying the brakes.
Maybe it will get better as I continue to break it in, but all 3 aforementoned vehicles braked better from the get go... Wondering if a better pad compound will make the brakes feel better?

Looking at the Power Stop Z36-2407 pads as a possible remedy. Has anyone here tried these? Thoughts/Opinions?

 

[SGRACING]

So, I have had my 2024 Bison for 4 days and about 310 miles. Love the way it looks and drives... But...
My Wife's 2021 GMC Acadia, my Son's 2024 Colorado Trail Boss AND my (recently replaced) 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie all have/had better/stronger initial bite when applying the brakes.
Maybe it will get better as I continue to break it in, but all 3 aforementoned vehicles braked better from the get go... Wondering if a better pad compound will make the brakes feel better?

Looking at the Power Stop Z36-2407 pads as a possible remedy. Has anyone here tried these? Thoughts/Opinions?

GM has never had adequate braking in my opinion.. I always upgrade to Brembo's It's there upgrade and it works awesome.
The down side is you have to go to 20's.
Lol ZR2 doesn't offer but my dealer added them for me along with Forged Vosen's all five plus brake ..10k

 

[stevev331]

GM has never had adequate braking in my opinion..

My ZL1 came with awesome brakes...

 

[DNZR2]

My ZL1 came with awesome brakes...

So did my Z06. My Silverados not so much.

 

[MrScottly]

My 2500 stops pretty good for a heavy behemoth....Much better than my Ram. Spongy pedal, but it stops.

 

[44sixpack]

The brakes on my '24 ZR2 are excellent.

 

[DNZR2]

The brakes on my '24 ZR2 are excellent.

Must be the AmSoil

 

[securityguy]

@MrScottly ...I am very happy with my 2500HD as well.

 

[44sixpack]

Maybe my expectations are just realistic. these weren't built to run the Le Mans.

If these brakes aren't good enough you don't need an upgrade, you need driving lessons.

 

[DBAG]

So, I have had my 2024 Bison for 4 days and about 310 miles. Love the way it looks and drives... But...
My Wife's 2021 GMC Acadia, my Son's 2024 Colorado Trail Boss AND my (recently replaced) 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie all have/had better/stronger initial bite when applying the brakes.
Maybe it will get better as I continue to break it in, but all 3 aforementoned vehicles braked better from the get go... Wondering if a better pad compound will make the brakes feel better?

Looking at the Power Stop Z36-2407 pads as a possible remedy. Has anyone here tried these? Thoughts/Opinions?

I have not yet tried them on my zr2 yet but have had good success with them on my emergency vehicle fleet. For example I had a battalion truck 21 ram 3500 that would go metal to metal every 11k miles after making the switch to the z36 we went 55k on the last set. The z36 also seem to be more resistant to brake fade. I pare them with acdelco performance rotors(actually made by raybestos).

 

[wutang61]

Considering my last truck had rear drums the brakes on this one seem better.

But the ZR2 and especially Bison are pigs. Heavy bastards.

When the time comes, I’ll change everything over to power stop drilled/slotted. I’d recommend the same for you. Will help quite a bit… albeit at the cost of dust and pad life.

 

[DNZR2]

Brakes? Who needs brakes?

 

[AXE]

So, I have had my 2024 Bison for 4 days and about 310 miles. Love the way it looks and drives... But...
My Wife's 2021 GMC Acadia, my Son's 2024 Colorado Trail Boss AND my (recently replaced) 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie all have/had better/stronger initial bite when applying the brakes.
Maybe it will get better as I continue to break it in, but all 3 aforementoned vehicles braked better from the get go... Wondering if a better pad compound will make the brakes feel better?

Looking at the Power Stop Z36-2407 pads as a possible remedy. Has anyone here tried these? Thoughts/Opinions?

I'd take it to the dealer first and see if the software needs to be updated or any of the hardware including the booster. Very quirky system, but mine brakes ok even with heavier tires and wheels.

Mine brakes harder when the computer decides to brake on its own cause there's someone blowing through the parking lot when I'm backing or through a stop sign on the corner when I'm coming out of my driveway.

 

[AXE]

When I sold my 2005 2500HD Dmax it still had the original pads at 150k and 10 years. My 2015 2500HD Duramax was sold to my boy and it still has original brakes at 95k and 10.4 years. Those brakes could haul down 10-12k pretty easily.

Not sure why its so difficult to put good brakes on the 1500s, but they don't.

 

[DNZR2]

When I sold my 2005 2500HD Dmax it still had the original pads at 150k and 10 years. My 2015 2500HD Duramax was sold to my boy and it still has original brakes at 95k and 10.4 years. Those brakes could haul down 10-12k pretty easily.

Not sure why it’s so difficult to put good brakes on the 1500s, but they don't.

When I sold my 2005 2500HD Dmax it still had the original pads at 150k and 10 years. My 2015 2500HD Duramax was sold to my boy and it still has original brakes at 95k and 10.4 years. Those brakes could haul down 10-12k pretty easily.

Not sure why its so difficult to put good brakes on the 1500s, but they don't.

It’s all due to the corporate bean counters trying to save a few pennies instead choosing a quality pad and rotor.

 

[wutang61]

It’s all due to the corporate bean counters trying to save a few pennies instead choosing a quality pad and rotor.

It’s also the design target of the truck. Most HD’s are under utilized for the design scope of the truck.

Most people with HD’s are not towing at or near capacity 7 days a week to add to brake wear. The capacity of half tons are much more typical for “normal” truck use case. Which results in higher wear as the scope of the brake system is much lower.

When you have a truck that’s designed to tow 15k+ pounds and you putt around with a fraction of the GVWR or let’s be honest, empty. most of the time…. you’ll have lifetime brakes with no doubt in my mind.

Everything comes at a cost. Massive thick rotors and huge calipers add to weight. Lowering carrying capacity and increasing fuel use and lowering “performance” such as handling and acceleration.

The HD’s are called HD’s for a reason. They are made to work.