Back at the shop again! 😡

[ZR2BIZON]

I wish we had to add all kinds of additives to our gas to make them run normal. . . . . . . Said no gasser ever!!

Next additive will be a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar I bet.

 

[securityguy]

I started using that when Cummins recommended it, back when I had my first RAM. I continue to use it in my Duramax. I figgure if Cummins likes it, it can't be too bad.

Now Archoil, to me, just seems like snake oil. Not saying it doesn't work as I have never tried it, and I know guys that swear by it, but I am always skeptical about anything that needs a continuous flow of hyped up ads to promote it, and interwebs fan boys that rub it on their pecker like it's magic sauce.

Just because a company likes to advertise has nothing to do with quality, performance or snake oil. It is VERY well respected in the market and there is no indication it doesn't do exactly what they state it will do. In reality, most all of these products are essentially the same just different formulas and concentrations.

 

[MrScottly]

I wish we had to add all kinds of additives to our gas to make them run normal. . . . . . . Said no gasser ever!!

Because it's already in the gas when you buy it...Maybe they should spray some of it on those lifters....

 

[MrScottly]

Just because a company likes to advertise has nothing to do with quality, performance or snake oil. It is VERY well respected in the market and there is no indication it doesn't do exactly what they state it will do. In reality, most all of these products are essentially the same just different formulas and concentrations.

Yea, petty much....Again, never used it, don't have first hand knowledge of it, but don't trust snake oil sales tactics. Maybe one day...But for now, I'll stick to what has been working for me.

Maybe one day, we'll get some better diesel fuel here in the U.S of A.

 

[ZR2BIZON]

Fake News

 

[AXE]

LOL I have had 6 of the 6.6 oil burners and never had a problem engine related. I have always used Diesel Kleen at every fill up for all of those years.

Ok next comment.

Diesel Kleen isn't really that great, especially at lubricating. There are better lubricants and detergents. Opti Lube XPD and XL is probably at the top of the list. There was an independent test done years ago and it mopped up!

Diesel Fuel Additives - Opti-Lube Additives & Lubricants

www.opti-lube.com

 

[securityguy]

Diesel Kleen isn't really that great, especially at lubricating. There are better lubricants and detergents. Opti Lube XPD and XL is probably at the top of the list. There was an independent test done years ago and it mopped up!

Diesel Fuel Additives - Opti-Lube Additives & Lubricants

www.opti-lube.com

I have used XPD in the past. Trying Archoil AR6500 this time around.

 

[MrScottly]

There was an independent test done years ago and it mopped up!

You don't have to answer these questions, but...

Who did the test?
Who owns the company that did the test?
Who paid the company that did the test?
Who dictated the conditions of the testing?
What were they specifically testing for?

Whenever I see a company snake-oil selling me something based on "independent test" performance, it feels like I am taking it in the shorts, because none of those questions I asked are ever answered.
Not saying anything about the product you mention, or you for mentioning it...Just putting that out there.

I'm not a chemical engineer working in a lab, and neither are any of you, so.....

 

[securityguy]

I'm not a chemical engineer working in a lab, and neither are any of you, so.....

True...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

 

[MrScottly]

Diesel Kleen isn't really that great, especially at lubricating.

And yet..... https://investor.cummins.com/news/detail/346/cummins-inc-officially-recommends-power-service-diesel



There are unanswered questions here, also....Who owns DK? Is Cummins getting a commission? Is the engineer at Cummins the DK owner's brother-in-law?

Always questions.

 

[MrScottly]

True...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

Classic....

 

[red454]

At work we have used Howes for a diesel fuel conditioner and it seems to work well.

 

[AXE]

You don't have to answer these questions, but...

Who did the test?
Who owns the company that did the test?
Who paid the company that did the test?
Who dictated the conditions of the testing?
What were they specifically testing for?

Whenever I see a company snake-oil selling me something based on "independent test" performance, it feels like I am taking it in the shorts, because none of those questions I asked are ever answered.
Not saying anything about the product you mention, or you for mentioning it...Just putting that out there.

I'm not a chemical engineer working in a lab, and neither are any of you, so.....

What part of "independent" don't you understand? It was paid for by crowd sourcing the funding by members of a Duramax diesel forum. Look it up, it ain't complicated.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink"!

 

[AXE]

By the way, if your looking primarily for lubricating you injectors and fuel pump, then 2 stroke oil is the winner to lower the scar rating of American refined ULSD. Might be at the expense of your DPF if you go overboard.

That's why I chose Opti Lube XL about 10 years ago. Injector balance rates are spec and no blown CP4 in 11 years.

 

[MrScottly]

What part of "independent" don't you understand?

The part where it says "Opti-Lube" is the client...

 

[MrScottly]

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink"!

Can't make the fanboys read, either...I guess you didn't notice that your "study" indicates Opti-puke has the highest ratio of additive per fuel of ANYTHING other than the 2-stroke oil they tested.

Ya think maybe the results would have varied if the ratios were the same for all the products? Ya think maybe...just maybe...That won't work out too well for the DPF in the long run?

 

[AXE]

Can't make the fanboys read, either...I guess you didn't notice that your "study" indicates Opti-puke has the highest ratio of additive per fuel of ANYTHING other than the 2-stroke oil they tested.

Ya think maybe the results would have varied if the ratios were the same for all the products? Ya think maybe...just maybe...That won't work out too well for the DPF in the long run?

They were mixed at manufacturers specifications. Anything else i can clarify for you, I'll be happy to do so. I know we don't all learn at the same pace.

No fanboy.............I study it, I test it, I decide if its working. After 11 years and never having to clean my injectors and original DPF, I'll trust my process and conclude it probably works for it's intended purpose.

In the words of the late great Charlie Daniel's "that's the way I like it I'm simple man!"

 

[AXE]

The part where it says "Opti-Lube" is the client...

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That ain't all there was to the test Junior, gotta try a little harder. If you're gonna run like with the big dogs, you can't piss like a pup!